Comments on: Esther Stanford - Best advert the National Front ever had. http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/ This blog is about the things that make me smile, rant or shake my head in consternation. Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:17:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: exmonkey http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-5667 Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:37:49 +0000 http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-5667 I would not for one moment suggest that there is no point to answer. My issue is with Ms Stanford in particular, who I believe is an angry divisive individual who has no interest in moving forward as a planet of equal 'human beings', and would rather spout her own form of racism to anyone who'll listen. I would not for one moment suggest that there is no point to answer.

My issue is with Ms Stanford in particular, who I believe is an angry divisive individual who has no interest in moving forward as a planet of equal ‘human beings’, and would rather spout her own form of racism to anyone who’ll listen.

]]> by: Nkusotera http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-5656 Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:03:36 +0000 http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-5656 When one talks about slavery one should understand that while the act was passed some 200 years ago slavery did not stop then and when it did it was replaced by colonialism which had a similar effect on the african people. The zealous civilised west dividing the continent of africa for its natural resources in the name of spreading civilisation and christianity. This form of slavery and apparthied continued until 1994 when south africa finally became indepenedent. I do not think lobbyist like Ms Stanford and those of african ancestry who share the same anger and sometimes hatred of the dehumanising act of slave trade and its twin of colonialism have no point. The legacy of these two continues today and the psychology that promoted it still continues unto this day. I am not supprused myself when i hear the west talk about the two world wars with anger or utter disdain at the Nazi and what they stand for. It is unfair to ask an aggreaved people to shut up and stick on with it, to forget the past and look at the future. It is quite unrealistic to do so. Isn't it? When one talks about slavery one should understand that while the act was passed some 200 years ago slavery did not stop then and when it did it was replaced by colonialism which had a similar effect on the african people. The zealous civilised west dividing the continent of africa for its natural resources in the name of spreading civilisation and christianity. This form of slavery and apparthied continued until 1994 when south africa finally became indepenedent.
I do not think lobbyist like Ms Stanford and those of african ancestry who share the same anger and sometimes hatred of the dehumanising act of slave trade and its twin of colonialism have no point. The legacy of these two continues today and the psychology that promoted it still continues unto this day.
I am not supprused myself when i hear the west talk about the two world wars with anger or utter disdain at the Nazi and what they stand for. It is unfair to ask an aggreaved people to shut up and stick on with it, to forget the past and look at the future. It is quite unrealistic to do so. Isn’t it?

]]> by: exmonkey http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2262 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:55:59 +0000 http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2262 My response to the now deleted comment purporting to be from a member of the NewZealand national front. (included here) I wrote my reply before I saw the email address this racist was using. <em>Sid Wilson (member of some tin-pot racist organization) wrote:</em> <blockquote>What the White race hater Esther Stanford has forgotten to mention is that slavery has been historically a normal social condition common to near all nations, races and cultures, whether in benign form, or cruel. I suggest that slavery in Britain was a more benign form than that which was practiced in Africa. I also suggest that Ms. Stanford owes a considerable debt to White civilised society for introducing and enforcing for the first time in the history of the world the total outlawing and abolishment of slavery wherever it could be found. Come on Esther Stanford, face the facts; you owe my people for your current freedom and prosperity, and the time has now come for you to show us your gratitude and pay-up don't you think?</blockquote> I think people who use capital letters on the word 'White' may have a few issues and frankly I have problems with anyone anyone who takes a stance which includes the phrase "My people" - black or white. We are all human beings - end of discussion. The historical prevalence of slavery in a wide variety of cultures through history does not make it in any way acceptable. Whilst I would defend your right to hold your views, I don't agree with your comments and certainly don't consider myself to be part of the '<em>us</em>' you seem to be speaking for. My response to the now deleted comment purporting to be from a member of the NewZealand national front.
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I wrote my reply before I saw the email address this racist was using.

Sid Wilson (member of some tin-pot racist organization) wrote:

What the White race hater Esther Stanford has forgotten to mention is that slavery has been historically a normal social condition common to near all nations, races and cultures, whether in benign form, or cruel.

I suggest that slavery in Britain was a more benign form than that which was practiced in Africa.

I also suggest that Ms. Stanford owes a considerable debt to White civilised society for introducing and enforcing for the first time in the history of the world the total outlawing and abolishment of slavery wherever it could be found.

Come on Esther Stanford, face the facts; you owe my people for your current freedom and prosperity, and the time has now come for you to show us your gratitude and pay-up don’t you think?

I think people who use capital letters on the word ‘White’ may have a few issues and frankly I have problems with anyone anyone who takes a stance which includes the phrase “My people” - black or white. We are all human beings - end of discussion.

The historical prevalence of slavery in a wide variety of cultures through history does not make it in any way acceptable.

Whilst I would defend your right to hold your views, I don’t agree with your comments and certainly don’t consider myself to be part of the ‘us‘ you seem to be speaking for.

]]> by: exmonkey http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2254 Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:05:37 +0000 http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2254 true, true - she's still a horrible woman though. true, true - she’s still a horrible woman though.

]]> by: ditdotdat http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2252 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:48:17 +0000 http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2252 I do think that when we visit places like the Tate Gallery we should tell our kids about the slaves who worked so hard in such terrible conditions to create the fortunes that were spent on them. I was also delighted to see how very irritated the tories were by Blair's apology. Slavery hasn't really gone away though. There are plenty of people all over the world working for virtually nothing. Their working conditions are often little better than slavery and it's much easier to bang on about the evils of the slave trade than it is to pay a little more for Fairtrade products that alleviate this modern slavery. Just take a look at the people who buy stuff from the Fairtrade aisle at your local supermarket; you'll notice that they are mostly middle-class and white. I do think that when we visit places like the Tate Gallery we should tell our kids about the slaves who worked so hard in such terrible conditions to create the fortunes that were spent on them. I was also delighted to see how very irritated the tories were by Blair’s apology.
Slavery hasn’t really gone away though. There are plenty of people all over the world working for virtually nothing. Their working conditions are often little better than slavery and it’s much easier to bang on about the evils of the slave trade than it is to pay a little more for Fairtrade products that alleviate this modern slavery. Just take a look at the people who buy stuff from the Fairtrade aisle at your local supermarket; you’ll notice that they are mostly middle-class and white.

]]> by: exmonkey http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2251 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:59:42 +0000 http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2251 I used to think I was left wing, right up until the moment when Blair managed to make all of us lefties into totalitarian police state loving fascists... Whatever your political leanings are though, you have to have a fairly blunt axe in need of grinding to feel anything other than jaw-dropping disbelief and anger when you hear this woman rant. I am less concerned about <blockquote cite="http://www.rossparker.com/2006/11/27/let-it-go-esther/"> leftists are lurking, ready to pounce, with their demands for compensation</blockquote> than I am about <em>far</em>-right tossers using people like Esther to hammer yet more nails in the coffin of Britain's cultural harmony. And why am I using so many mixed metaphors today? I used to think I was left wing, right up until the moment when Blair managed to make all of us lefties into totalitarian police state loving fascists…

Whatever your political leanings are though, you have to have a fairly blunt axe in need of grinding to feel anything other than jaw-dropping disbelief and anger when you hear this woman rant.

I am less concerned about

leftists are lurking, ready to pounce, with their demands for compensation

than I am about far-right tossers using people like Esther to hammer yet more nails in the coffin of Britain’s cultural harmony.

And why am I using so many mixed metaphors today?

]]> by: Ross Parker http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2249 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:18:12 +0000 http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2249 I'm not a Daily Mail reader, but I am on the right of British politics. <a href="http://www.rossparker.com/2006/11/27/let-it-go-esther/" rel="nofollow">What I think about this vicious woman</a> is pretty similar to what you think, although I shan't be joining the BNP. I’m not a Daily Mail reader, but I am on the right of British politics. What I think about this vicious woman is pretty similar to what you think, although I shan’t be joining the BNP.

]]> by: Mandy http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2248 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:09:53 +0000 http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2248 Yes. Also Jones is a left -handed welsh man. I ought to get a benefit for that. And the eldest has red hair. O Joy, it might add up to a syndrome. And counselling. My delight has no bounds. Yes. Also Jones is a left -handed welsh man. I ought to get a benefit for that. And the eldest has red hair. O Joy, it might add up to a syndrome. And counselling. My delight has no bounds.

]]> by: exmonkey http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2246 Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:33:00 +0000 http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2246 Just think how much money the government owes you for all that heredity trauma. Just think how much money the government owes you for all that heredity trauma.

]]> by: Mandy http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2243 Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:15:17 +0000 http://www.unitedbyyucca.com/2006/11/27/esther-stanford-best-advert-the-national-front-ever-had/#comment-2243 Quite. And another thing - when apologising for something, on my behalf, for which I have no responsibility, I hope that someone can bare in mind the all the ancestors of mine in the Lancashire cotton industry of the time who went on strike in sympathy with the slaves, poor buggers. Of course, poverty wasn't relative then. Quite. And another thing - when apologising for something, on my behalf, for which I have no responsibility, I hope that someone can bare in mind the all the ancestors of mine in the Lancashire cotton industry of the time who went on strike in sympathy with the slaves, poor buggers. Of course, poverty wasn’t relative then.

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